They're more for convoy raiding. You'll receive some damage from CAS but you'll shoot down quite a few. it's light cruisers that destroy screens a. Saltborko • 4 yr. I know, i know, just use 15 -5 armoured tank on multiple angle to plow through enemy even through mountain. ago. The next Update is gonna kill the light attack heavy cruiser meta and the submarine spam meta is gonna get nerfed hard Wait untill the new metas were figured out (my bet is the return of the light attack light cruiser)1. mainman879 • 9 mo. Delta974 • 4 yr. - There are at least 15 Support Company types in the game (assuming some nation-specific ones as well like Assault Battalions) with 5 slots. 65, which is about 21. Then select the Feild marshal either from the theater's menu or from the bottom of the screen. Are there any good spy overhaul mods? I really like playing with spies, but I think they are a bit bland, like it makes sense to do 1-2 missions max. Specialized destroyers and naval bombers should do the trick. After the 5th their org should be down enough to run over. Spam divisions/planes. 6 you should spam infantry like there is no tommorow. Their counter is Battle Cruisers. 299k members in the hoi4 community. 203. HOI4 Tools SGr - Save Game Recorder - records, compresses, and archives autosave files in realtime, no game impact. Get them close to the border and set off the conflict. Any of the same modifier will stack additively, so in your example of 10% output + 20% output, you'd have 30% output. I seem to not be able to pass anything above 2 bar speed regardless of what setting the game speed bar is on. Garrison your ports and naval bomb anywhere they try to land. FlinzP Captain. All navy production and tech to submarines Total airforce (end game) of about 600 fighters and 1200 bombers. I can't remember if the Raj starts democratic or not, so you may also be able to have a Democratic coup to create India. ago. Option a) naval bomber option b) submarine. Go to hoi4 r/hoi4 • by. Content is available under Attribution-ShareAlike 3. l to ensure that your capitals are effectively screened. on resubscription it will be reupdated and dl the mods again. A. r/hoi4. Range, cant reach any battles that are currently happening, but sometimes airzones bug, could also be airfield being crowded. But this is a paradox-wide quality problem right now, probably an issue of budget or management or something, so it's hard for me to lay blame on the HoI4 team. High AA doesn't mean you can easily shoot down 500 planes. For division stats, the different modifiers are multiplicative. or uboat “bathtubs” to get naval supremacy and torp bombers are the only real way to kill a navy like the UK for HOI4 cheap, many, and light attack spam is the current meta for navy Reply reeeerias. Reply. ago. For naval doctrine, almost always use trade interdiction. A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the grand strategy game Hearts of Iron IV by…375K subscribers in the hoi4 community. Television. angry-mustache • 7 yr. not if you have to fight a large naval group. Will 10-0s push well enough? I noticed it’s very difficult for me to get and keep a solid foothold in China and keep pushing. You can never go wrong with torpedos and it always is a good idea to build screen with a. Report. ago. ago. In both world wars, particularly the first, they had a nasty tendency to suffer catastrophic explosions with nearly all hands lost. 375K subscribers in the hoi4 community. The reason for submarine spamming in game and in history iis because they were cheap. Submarine Spam. (can construct avg 2-4. I don't get supremacy and neither win naval battles to weaken the enemy. 1. Hoi4 is game of multipliers so try to get any and every multiplier you have at your disposal for successful landing. ago. ago. The sub thing is especially frustrating. 1 update. ago. These can be surface ships, submarines, and/or aircraft carriers. Now there's only one way to basically play Japan for example. This is a very heavy assult infantry tenplate. ago. Originally posted by Random: the easiest and most effective way to wipe out subs on mass is to setup about 4 groups of 10-15 destroyers with at least 2 secondary gun components setup to depth charges (pretty much every destroyer that isn't a minelayer or minesweeper should have this) with your highest available radar + sonar, and set them to. I recently watched Hammotimes beginner series and in his Navy video he mentions a "sub spam" method in which you produce a load of T1 subs and leave them on convoy raiding with auto repair etc. "Hybrid": This is what I've been trying lately. So yeah, it depends very heavily on situation. Also spam some naval bombers and put them in the attack english channel mode. How to use submarines properly. 1. As someone with 600 hours in HOI4 and a good understandung of the navy, dont bother. Trade Interdiction: This is an offensive doctrine focusing on attacking enemy convoys with coordinated stealthy surface and submarine raiders that have superior abilities to find and destroy enemy shipping while evading enemy detection. If you play non-historical mode be prepared to see some weird stuff, e. Tier 4 Subs can also do a great job sinking the enemies fleet unless you get tricked into convoy raiding a sea tile full of exclusively sub hunting destroyers. You cant ever build historical Japanese DDs. I'm trying to imagine the submarine shooting down airplanes while simultaneously sinking 4 ships. The USN also has some capital ships, although. A halfway comprehending of navy player would just spam DD with anti. ULTIMATE Submarine META PRO Guide - HOI4 Meta Navy Guide00:00 Subs!00:23 Why subs are broken01:36 Lets make a submarine04:09 Getting started07:44 Trade Inter. Your production should be 90% fighter 2 when you get it (late 38). Exemple US Submarine . These are very weak ships, and thus you can try to destroy them before they become problematic. Sub 3s, Light attack spam, torpedo screen spam, etc. 12, spamming subs is no longer a viable option for fleet-building. Task Force Admiral looks good. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. j1ffster • 13 min. dishhawkjones • 2 yr. For example it goes from 3 bars to 2 bars and then 1 bar and then it pauses the game. ago. hold the Suez, Singapore, and retake Ethiopia. I think the AA division you have assigned to it is the problem with it. Current issue is that the subs are literally too fast for the destroyers to fight so they do. Exemple US Submarine . DN = dreadnought. Even low level ports should be able to receive vastly more supply than supply hubs connected by rail. You can usually replace the logistics company with support AA and mitigate the. But that would take a lot of modding work to make happen. [deleted] • 7 yr. This page was last edited on 7 May 2017, at 15:55. Is heavy cruiser spam still the naval meta? Also is base strike the best doctrine for them? < > Showing 1-9 of 9 comments . Then in order to get most out of them funnel your convoy routes through a few sectors. By 1940 tech level, the DEs cost 1150 and the DDs cost 1900. Although i did notice that doesnt work 100% of the time, seems to be mostly the case with Newspaper Events. MTG needed a little more iteration. destroyers also get one shot by p. Deep. Sink the Italian Fleet. I also agree with the advice of researching 1944 tech for Engines IV, but continue to use the 1940 frame. "Carrier Battles" is a good game series about Carrier fighting. They supposedly do this, because the AI needs its battle lines fully manned, or the AI does strange things moving divisions around to fill holes, that only opens up more holes, which. You can either 'cheat' by making the tech sharing group non-reliant on a NF (as it used to be), or you can just remove yourself from the group and restart the NF. Edit to link to my cut/paste. Yes that's true but to say it wouldn't have been a game changer is a bit of a stretch. 1. You have 0% mission efficiency. So while navies are fun for 'shts'n'giggles', and occasionally you need a few ships for invasions, if you're asking for what is 'effective' its air. HOI4 isn’t working for me. 9 Avalanche). Add more planes. Yay for cheapest interwar tank you can make for garrison (if you don't want to just use cav + captured rifles), nay for anything that gets deployed on the map. txt event 27) (uh if youre looking for specific. A halfway comprehending of navy player would just spam DD with anti. I know the point of the MtG update/expansion is to combat the current meta of BB/CV spam, and to combat naval force "inflation" (i. Then just spam these out. 25) attack after modifiers. Reply. "Hybrid": This is what I've been trying lately. I've been trying to keep up my production, but my two fleets in the area, the Baltic Fleet and the Home Fleet, have. They work ok i guess, havent tried that yet, but if you spam as much torpedoes as possible on them and spam light cruiser, im gonna actually try this tomorow, but i think they do ok, best loght cruisers have 126. Great War Mod Cant Find Research For Some Technology. for the low price of just 85 XP! As an added bonus, get a way to ramp up your army to a million men for just 5 XP extra! Limited time offer. bwhite9 • General of the Army • 4 yr. Add a Comment. Delta974 • 4 yr. Build 2)’s Cruisers but also spam Destroyers with full torpedoes on them. SS Submarine – cheap, slow, limited loadout options; SS Cruiser Submarine – cheap, unique to a few countries, slow, special loadout options. For your purposes in Asia, the range will be far superior (huge air zones) Regardless, it doesn't matter too much. Go to hoi4 r/hoi4 • by. . 203. In most cases, a fleet in HOI4 is simply a group of naval vessels. Simple solution. They need to HURT. Current HOI4 Version Supported: Barbarossa v1. Coastal radar installations help naval superiority and fleet spotting. 127. Multiplayer sync problem : r/hoi4. Air superiority reduces enemy breakthrough and defense as well as allows your CAS operate without interference. 2 comments. This is the most powerful doctrine for surface action. Greatest HOI4 post of all time. I'm using airbases in Turkey, and am ready to paradrop soldiers in, but I don't to do it, just to get overrun after running out of supply in a few days. For example, somebody who is in modern day Tunisia could make Tunisia, Tunis, Carthage, etc. 225. This mod makes no changes to vanilla ships or modules. r/hoi4 • Is submarine spam enough to sink AI navy? r/hoi4. Thangunis. It's allowed me to destroy significant parts of any enemy navy with comparitively minor effort. Coins. HELP! Multiplayer sync problem. I've read mines help with naval supremacy and they are relatively efficient submarine wise. it largely prevents german tanks breaching the front in the southern plains when playing as the soviet union (though the single most important thing is to mass produce rifles in absurd quantities). In this short tutorial esque guide I will show how the current best way to counter the Axis sub spam, as the Allies (specifically the United Kingdom). The USN has a large submarine component that includes many 1940 submarines with the raiding designer and trade interdiction techs. Anything to look out for to. Also, go for bigger divisions (40, 42 or 45 width) when on offense due to focusing and attack to defense ratios. The desktop kind. Tanks should be used scarcely only as a breakthrough force. Exemple Japanese Submarine. No enemy airports = no red air, simple as that. If you spam subs, you will loose your manpower and uwilt your dockyards to something that you will loose anyways. a other light cruisers + destroyers and allow the capitals, heavy cruisers & carriers to be destroyed by anything that breathes on them. Last game I tried building a navy by spamming destroyers, cruisers and grouping them with capitals as well as submarine spam. 5 (100 * 1. They all run to the back of the boat to tilt the bow up, then fire a torpedo. a. k. 1 / 6. They can also function as independent tank divisions. HOI4 Special: Subs with snorkels, lots of Naval bombers. ago Instead of doing sub spam, I prefer making a good surface fleet. l to ensure that your capitals are effectively screened. It might have been patched in the beta 1. Some lesser known factors that affect naval supremacy : - Air superiority is a factor on naval supremacy - Some missions (convoy raiding and escort) only give you half the naval superiority point, so be sure to be either in strike force, reconnaissance or naval invasion support (training obviously gives 0 point)Well, if submarine 3 is good enough, in practice, against the AI, then upgrading may be counterproductive simply due to production cost. Please remember to follow all forum rules. It splashes up into the air and crashes straight through a whole squadron of bombers. Is there something I m doing wrong because I thought I should be able to increase UI scale beyond default 1X ? This thread is archived. Destroyers are about 1/3 the Ainti-Air strength of a Light Cruiser, which is the most cost-effective ship for AA (outside of a carrier with fighters). They are really only useful for convoy. Submarines OP. instant construction ( ic in the console) makes it so on every new day, every production line builds 1 vessel. You can utilize surface raiders as well. S. Learned To Love Submarine Groups. 2) I don't think the AI is sweeping mines. Reply seesaww •. If at all possible in any capacity, get a desktop. • 4 yr. There are a few none are very good. If the host is running the game at a speed one of the players cannot handle and falls more than 24 in game hours behind without the game autopausing they will desync. 0 unless otherwise noted. Latest HOI4 resource history spreadsheet (HOI4v 1. 666. ago. Build Sub 3/4s with snorkels. After that, pressing H will do the job. It splashes up into the air and crashes straight through a. subscribers . gaoruosong • 3 yr. ago. At the core of winning the air war is the development of an effective fighter design. r/hoi4. Never miss a thing. Submarine Spam, destroyer spam it just doesn't work. There's no way around that. So have some divisions at a port on your coast waiting, scout out the British coast with your fleet before you declare war, then drop the paratroopers on the island in a relatively weak spot and then get your army across the. Speed is king, always retreat at any sign of trouble and stay out of air range. 80% of the game is out the door using such methods, I mean no CZE, no YUG, those alone have trees that can massively change the possible. Spamming submarines, though dumb at first, can be surprisingly effective. ago. If you win some battles you can immediately proceed with convoy raiding. Easy, cheap, and effective. The only techs that are worth it are Fire Control and Submarine Hulls; many other navy techs aren't worth the investment. Navy Works like: 1 Admiral has a Fleet, each fleet has different Task Forces. If you don't like planes like me, you can build Sub 3's with full torpedoes with level 1 snorkel and full engine, put them on 20-30 wolfpacks and put them on always engage, even better make sub 4's with full torpedoes,. Each country has its own unique background, ideology, government, economy, resources, currency, etc. After they are gone go to the MS website and download the newest drivers. Their survivability is in their speed. I want to try and stay democratic, I am trying to challenge myself, I have already avoided it by. If you care about details HOI4 has a lot of design issues. Give wardens destroyer. - When your fleet meets and enemy fleet they begin a naval battle. I've never experience it while gaming but I have while watching YouTube in full screen mode. Recon fleets come in about five ships, and sub fleets use five to ten submarines. 371K subscribers in the hoi4 community. DD is a submarine hunter and cannon fodder. 3 comments. 11. You trigger an order-of-battle file in which you create divisions as well as the template these divisions use. Above water is, very specifically: a main super strike fleet comprised of light cruisers with a single medium battery to ensure its in the secondary line, torpedo destroyers, and cheap, expendable screening destroyers; while the rest of the 9 capacity is occupied by cheap, fast, scout cruisers. Late game post 1950 tanks used to be a bit broken before NSB, not sure if that's changed, since I haven't played the mod since then. I have about 60 submarines and would like to convoi raid Great Britain. That said this is basically meta (against AI). Then the torp destroyers kill enemy caps. any tactic will defeat AI. ago. Well, they've reached their limit of supplies they can deliver. 0. Give collies submarine. Hearts of Iron IV > Workshop > Tim Apple's Workshop. Additional advantage of submarine spam is that you can really streamline it technology wise and have much quicker doctrines researched. More time and QA. Press J to jump to the feed. The weaknesses are enemy airpower, good ASW cruisers, or destroyer spam (but destroyers only deter and not kill). Trade Interdiction. Against a stronger naval opponent we can focus on tying up their fleet and destroying supply lines to starve their war machine. The cruisers kill enemy screen ships. Turn your 18 width infantry with shovels into 40 width 14-4s with R. Then I couldn't. Spam submarines hard and do most of the fighting on ground and air. I quickly redeploy it's troops. When originally they where givin these cool professional sounding names like raider group, pacific fleet, so on and so forth. ago. Which makes them much more difficult to sink. anti air seems useless when playing the soviets the areas are so huge a. Click a ship and then right click the naval version of the army tab in the row where you want it (which admiral you want it to go to). Build Cruisers with one cheapest heavy gun and the rest the best light guns you can get. 2. If they are torpedo destroyers, you can dunk on your opponent and also use light attack heavy cruisers to kill them. This makes them heavy cruisers so they get protected by your Destroyers. AI Japan has a decision it will take to surrender if it has two nukes dropped on it, along with some other conditions. Content is available under Attribution-ShareAlike 3. Deliberus Banned. DD Destroyer – light, fast, cheap. g. -Make submarine -Upgrade -Make better submarine -Upgrade -Make pre-top Submarine with top torpedoes. It’s pretty simple, but takes focus to make it efficient. I've read mines help with naval supremacy and they are relatively efficient submarine wise. If you have 5 dockyards, you can put 5 production lines with 1 dockyard each, activate ic and you get 5 ships every day. 849 votes, 36 comments. Outside of a tank division as their own dedicated motorized. The main tree is mostly for CVs. Instead of doing 15-5 tank-mot, do 13-5-4 tank-mot-SPAA with support AA. And secondarily attacking enemy ships. variants) that can be produced by dockyards. 2. How to use submarines properly. In regular war you need to kill pockets in order to keep your XP level. ago. If possible get fighter coverage for the percentage buff and cas to do org/strength damage. Ok so in the great war hoi4 mod (Im playing as German Empire), if you go on construction and look at the trench and land fort icons, they are both grey meaning they need to be unlocked. ago. edit: Also, have you researched any naval doctrine? The quickest way to kill submarines is destroyers equipped with sonar 2 and radar 3 set to patrol with many bombers over them. It's actually serious. 1. Polysci123 • 9 mo. Build lots of Fighters / Strategic Bombers to slow down German production. The weaknesses are enemy airpower, good ASW cruisers, or destroyer spam (but destroyers only deter and not kill). I know that mechanized 1 is slower than motorised, but then I think they get faster at higher levels. Never miss a thing. r/hoi4 • You’re tasked with creating a new Focus Tree for a nation that doesn’t have one, which nation is it, and what’s a main feature of it? r/hoi4 • Is submarine spam enough to sink AI navy?1. Greatest HOI4 post of all time. Then they sold DLC with ship designer that made the system so obtuse nobody understands it, and that's supposed to be an improvement. If you are ussr and your are going for a late build and you build civs until mid 39, dont rush imrpoved machine tool branch go instead dispersed construction make ready your tanks and after that research these before start producing heavily. Spain is also good, although you have to go first through the civil war. Dont even think of putting 2 torps, 4 CA guns and a spotting plane on the Takao class ships that are somehow Myoko class ships in Hoi4 even though they are different. FirstEquinox • 4 yr. ago. Destroyers have torpedoes 20% weaker than Light Cruisers and 1/3 the strength of Submarines. Submarine spam 1-2 tank divisions. This is where you have a submarine with an engine and single torpedo tube and build as many as you can due to the cheap production cost. The main tree is mostly for CVs. In multiplayer your results will get worse as sub tech increases, and yes that's backwards from what happened in world war 2. It works against countries that. If that is not the problem, check the total weight of your divisions and see if they can all be used in a transport plane. Click the army and look for a horse icon near your general card and change it to motorized supply. DD and Naval Bomber spam. Trade Interdiction makes ur surface fleets & subs be less visible to the enemy navy so ambushes are more efficient and running away is easier + u can raid convoys efficiently. As others said, 60+ torpedo attack is needed to one-shot kill convoys. ago. Go to hoi4 r/hoi4 • by. ago. Oct 3, 2022 @ 1:44am Heavy cruiser can't be spammed because you can't put light guns on a capital heavy cruiser anymore, I thought I overheard some people saying they would just literally. not an SSD), I can see this happening. Maybe your subs don’t have enough coverage or are spread over too many zones. Subs are the best scouts, best convoy raiders, and best minelayers. classteen • Fleet Admiral • 2 yr. Submarines aren't usually able to sink ships. And a great ally, it only took them about an hour to convert all of the battleships to submarines, all thanks to Japan! Submarine spam remains the true meta. Look at the spanish civil war and the indian liberation army. . 11. For the record, my play style is usually just spamming naval mines because that's all I understand. ; heavy attack spam: to counter the best build you need the best anti-build. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. Ok, definitely gonna look into that tomorrow. Thank you. Antonio. - There are roughly 40 Battalion types with 25 slots per Division. Then just spam these out. Idk if it's because of enemy intel or his divisions on the front. HoI4 is designed to emulate European warfare, the kind of warfare the NRA was not prepared to fight, and it simplifies terrain and supply to such a degree that China's natural advantages are rendered relatively inconsequential. Subs are the best scouts, best convoy raiders, and best minelayers. Hearts of Iron. In reality it is an order of magnitude cheaper to move freight by sea and river than by rail. Good light cruisers are excellent uses of. Other naval ship terms: CA: heavy cruiser BC: battlecruiser BB: battleship CV: aircraft carrier SS: submarine Light cruisers are generally referred to cruisers with guns no larger than 6” caliber. IMHO, there's no reason to build CV if you're just operating in the Med because you can fully cover all of the sea zones with land-based aircraft. I'm currently trying a paraguay campaign where I'll be relying on submarines for sea control, if I ever get that far, and I'll probably try using 1940 subs only, for the manpower and production savings. Carriers. jmjwrskp • 9 mo. Here is some history of my play-through: I joined the axis as fascist Australia and helped them to defeat both the allies and the comitern. 1. But in places where you can build radar on land, just have the naval bombers hunt the subs because it's faster to find them with the radar. ago. Apr 25, 2018. the reason you build light cruisers as any naval power (uk. 9. Battleships. 1 * 1. Win. Possibly the easiest meta in the game, and the one that most people go for is the submarine spam. Sub 3’s are very good, and they are very quick to build. As long as your carrier is on a mission (such as Strike Force), then the air wings will automatically engage when the fleet moves to attack. A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the grand strategy game…Now before you declare war on Romania, stack some of your puppets divisions along your fronts lines if you feel your army is inferior but ensure your lines are also capable of pushing up. I would say subs are the most OP. The Nova Politicus SMP is a realistic geopolitical/world building SMP where players are situated across the earth and make their own realistic countries. Click the portrait icon of an army without a general, there should be a button at the bottom of the window that says Promote division commander or something similar, click that and it gives you a list of division commanders, select one to promote to general. ago. 11. I prefer to build my navy slowly and spam submarines to make naval invasion. After download I noticed that my mods are stuck at 100% (title). Fill it with all the rifles and artillery you can find. Navies in HOI4 had a pretty strict setup - for every capital ship, you need four screen ships. Build 2)’s Cruisers but also spam Destroyers with full torpedoes on them. 1- don't do any focus until you get 50 pp and immediately justify on poland. You don't reinforce them with your own pool, they reinforce with Romania's pool and equipment.